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... Send *indyCares a private message | | *indyCares's profile:Hi everybody. I am an Italian woman currently living in Italy but I spent many years in England and USA. I hope my English is still decent but in case it got a little rusty, please be lenient.
My age ? Let say that I am way past the stage when you cry if the boy you like takes your best friend to the prom, and young enough to remember how awful that feels.
What qualifies me to help people- well, let me show off just a bit and mention that I studied Psychology 4 years in college, and, even if then I graduated in a different subject, I never lost my interest in psychology and kept reading a lot about this subject. Yet that does not really qualify me for anything because intellectual knowledge is not the same as real life experience. So let's say I feel I can advice people because I have lived a lot, travelled a lot, met a lot of people from all backgrounds , races and religions- I have loved a lot, and I have also been dumped a lot :)
Plus, I am really fascinated with people and their stories. Not in a gossipy way. I just find that every person is a whole new world that I am excited to discover.
Right now I am single- and happily so. I realized- better late than never - that rather than waiting for Prince Charming I should first become a Princess myself. You can't love anybody unconditionally, if first you don't love yourself unconditionally, and this is what I am learning to do.
Looking forward to hear from all of you..
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" Unicuique faber forrunae suae "- each of us is the maker of our own destiny.
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Should I reconnect with my first ex? Despite his threats and the reasons I broke up with him earlier?
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Does this 'relationship' have any potential?
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I started trimming as soon as there was anything to trim ther... (read in full...)
Should I be the one to deal with my Bf's ex Gf? And if so, then how?
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What can I do? I don't like it when he calls me bad names, but I'm also scared of him.
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We want to wait until next year when we are both mature to be a couple...but how should I act until then?
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A. 9 February 2013: What's the prob then ? If she must / needs / wants to wait until 17 before she dates, ... that applies to you same as to any other guy. She won't date ,kiss, etc.etc you- and she won't date,kiss, etc.etc other guys. She won't be officially yours, ... (read in full...)
Is it unhealthy or bad to make love every day?
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Wisdom teeth problem
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Am I not being sensitive enough? Or should she be cutting me some slack?
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And you are wrong, NO, she is not more important than your studies, your grades, and your future. You have to focus on that, and ... (read in full...)
Friend of 5 years ditches me for his girlfriend. I feel hurt!
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A. 7 February 2013: This must be really heavy on your mind, since you have posted about it already, and I must say, at this point your attachment starts to be a bit worrisome. We all need to face reality , unplesant as it may be, and accept what we cannot change.
T... (read in full...)
Why Do My Boyfriends Always Leave Me?
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We've been talking for a week and he says he's in love
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How long can someone's feelings last, without ever mentioning anything to the person they like?
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Did I do something wrong? This girl looked so irritated when I looked at her
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" We need to change our life before our life chan... (read in full...)
Older boyfriend said he was ready for responsibility but an unplanned pregnancy had him singing a different song!
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I had a sneak-peek at his email. I found out he's buying things for himself on line he's not told me about. Why the secret?
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I am not implying that he does not like you ... (read in full...)
He re-arranged my furniture because his kids wanted it that way! They were guests, surely they should have left it alone?
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A. 6 February 2013: @ Serpico: that may be true, at least to some extent, but what's this got to do with basic manners and respect for other people's belongings ?
I have a son, and I guess ,all in all, is true that he was and is my emotional investment no.1 , befo... (read in full...)
What are his intentions? ignores me for several weeks, then sends a text.
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A. 6 February 2013: Probably he DOES better already, so nothing wrong with a nice, virginal hand job once in a while. It may even make for a restful change of pace. ... (read in full...)
My experience of an LDR has been flawed by his need for a FWB as well. I refused the latter. Can LDR partners stay faithful?
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A. 6 February 2013: I am very skeptical about the viability of LDRs in general, they are fraught with problems objectively and it really takes a great love, a great effort and a great committment on both sides to carry them on successfully.
But, in your case, the ... (read in full...)
Did I do something wrong? This girl looked so irritated when I looked at her
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A. 6 February 2013: Oh sure , God forbid you should smile at her. There's a fine for smiling at stubborn Spanish speaking Mexican girls, you know ? In fact , now that I think of it... you may even get community service, for unauthorized Spanish speaking smiling.
R... (read in full...)
Do I break my heart and never know? Or tell my crush my feelings for him on Valentine's day?
Q. I have been stuck with this for over a year and a half now. I have developed strong emotions towards a guyfriend I've known for nearly 10 years. Never thought itd turn out this way. I don't know if he shares those same feelings. I've always heard ...
A. 6 February 2013: No, not on Valentine's Day. It's too " loaded " . Imagine if he does not reciprocate your interest and has to reject you, - then he gets to be the guy who breaks a nice girl's heart on Valentine's Day. How uncomfortable. Poor guy. If he's your ... (read in full...)
What do we have together? He will not confirm if we are in a relationship.
Q. Hi cupids any chance of a little help?? Been seeing a guy for 5 months now, it’s been ok-ish. I've began to fall for him and I’m not sure I’m doing the right thing allowing myself to as he's so complicated. He’s got a lot going for him, he ...
A. 6 February 2013: You must be a patient type, I'd think that 6 months of quickies, naps and ..nothing much else would have bored to tears everybody.
In general, if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck.... if he does not show enthusiasm and interest, it must... (read in full...)
I had a sneak-peek at his email. I found out he's buying things for himself on line he's not told me about. Why the secret?
Q. I've just found out that my boyfriend secretly spends a lot of money behind my back as he left his email account logged in and i had a sneek peek. He even bought lots of stuff on my b'day for himself! When talking about what he buys, he obvi...
A. 6 February 2013: Unwise it may be, but weird , why ? I'd say it's very common instead . All the Western society , at the end of the day, is based upon buying things you don't need with money you don't have. Why do you think they have invented credit cards for ?
H... (read in full...)
He re-arranged my furniture because his kids wanted it that way! They were guests, surely they should have left it alone?
Q. Please help. I have stayed over at boyfriends place before, when his two kids of 9 and 7 were visiting as well. (They live with their mum.) There were no real problems. He had some time off to look after them when they had a couple of days off ...
A. 6 February 2013: @ Chigirl, well, sure, put in these terms it's hard to contraddict you, - it's surely better to have a good relationship with a good guy who moves your furniture around than a bad relationship with a bad guy who does not touch anything.
N... (read in full...)
He re-arranged my furniture because his kids wanted it that way! They were guests, surely they should have left it alone?
Q. Please help. I have stayed over at boyfriends place before, when his two kids of 9 and 7 were visiting as well. (They live with their mum.) There were no real problems. He had some time off to look after them when they had a couple of days off ...
A. 5 February 2013: @Chigirl -perhaps yes, such an argument would cause more trouble. The focus of my answer was just on the OP's main question : They were guests, surely they should have left it alone ? To which, IMO the answer is : You bet that they should have ... (read in full...)
He re-arranged my furniture because his kids wanted it that way! They were guests, surely they should have left it alone?
Q. Please help. I have stayed over at boyfriends place before, when his two kids of 9 and 7 were visiting as well. (They live with their mum.) There were no real problems. He had some time off to look after them when they had a couple of days off ...
A. 5 February 2013: Yes, but it isn't the kids' fault, it's the dad's. I know well that when you've got kids you've got to be flexible ,don't sweat the small stuff and don't waste time in pointless arguments , but, it's not small stuff and there was NO room for ... (read in full...)
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