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Is there any way around his refusal to sign these documents? It's stopping me from travelling with her.

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Question - (13 October 2015) 7 Answers - (Newest, 14 October 2015)
A female United Kingdom age 30-35, anonymous writes:

Is there any way around getting my daughter a passport when her father is refusing to sign for it or let me borrow any of the legal documents needed.

He isn't apart of her life and never has been but when she was born, he came to the hospital and begged me to let him be on her birth certificate,( he even insisted on having his grandma's name as a middle name ) which i agreed as long as he didn't let her down. Which he did after a few months when his girlfriend began kicking off about having her over.

He hasn't seen her since she was 3 months old.

He has never paid child support as I refused to accept it as I strongly believe I will have nothing to thank him for if I don't.

I manage well without it.

He never asks about her nor sends her anything....

His family are great with her and they don't get why he is like this but whatever..

My friend has a relative in America and she has said we can go stay over there next spring.

I approached my daughter's grandparents to ask them if they think her dad would object and they assured me he had no reason and that they would pass on the form and get everything together so I wouldn't need to see him.

Yet he refused, saying he thought I didn't need anything from him, why does she suddenly need my help.

It's a form, and a few legal documents that he would have back without a few weeks.

I'm beyond upset and I've tried looking into ways to get around it but I can't find anything online and I was hoping someone could help me.

My daughter is 3 and is aware her daddy isn't in her life if that helps.

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (14 October 2015):

Don't quite get these bits.

He begged for his name on her birth certificate, why should a father have to beg to be on his child's birth certificate?

Why even mention at all that he has never paid child support when You are the one who refused to accept it.

I would not be surprised if that's why he said ('he thought I didn't need anything from him, why does she suddenly need my help).

Possibly pay back time for shutting him out, hope you don't have to beg for a signature like he did. A bit of your own medicine .

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A female reader, Honeypie United States + , writes (14 October 2015):

Honeypie agony auntI found this:

https://www.gov.uk/countersigning-passport-applications

Countersigning passport applications and photos

Check when you need to get someone else to sign your application and photo, who can and can’t sign - and what they have to do.

Some passport applications and photos must be signed by someone else (the ‘countersignatory’) to prove the identity of the person applying.

When you need someone else to sign your form and photo

You must get your form and one photo signed if you’re applying for:

your first adult or child passport

a replacement for a lost, stolen or damaged passport

a renewal of a passport for a child aged 11 or under

a renewal of a passport if your appearance has changed and you can’t be recognised from your existing passport

Who can sign forms and photos

Personal relationship

The countersignatory must:

have known the person applying for at least 2 years

be able to identify the person applying, eg they’re a friend, neighbour or colleague (not just someone who knows them professionally)

They can’t be closely related or involved with the person applying, eg:

related by birth or marriage

be in a relationship or live at the same address as the person applying

Where you’re applying from

If you’re applying in the UK, the countersignatory must:

live in the UK

have a current British or Irish passport

If you’re applying from outside the UK, they must have a current British, Irish or other EU, US or Commonwealth passport. But your application will be processed more quickly if they have a British or Irish passport.

When they hold a US, Commonwealth or other EU (not British or Irish) passport, they must provide a colour photocopy of the page with their photograph on it. This must be included with the countersigned application.

If you’re not sure who to ask

Call the Passport Adviceline.

Passport Adviceline

Telephone: 0300 222 0000

Textphone: 0300 222 0222

Text Relay: 18001 0300 222 0000

Monday to Friday, 8am to 8pm

Saturday, Sunday and public holidays, 9am to 5:30pm

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A female reader, Ivyblue Australia +, writes (14 October 2015):

Ivyblue agony auntI had the same problem. Now I'm in Australia, but all I had to do was apply for and under 'special circumstances' forms. From there it was a case of ticking the most relevant box-in my case 'Child without full parental consent' and 'No further court orders'. You will be able to write why you are needing to apply under these circumstances and all avenues you have taken to get consent. But like I say I'm in Australia so my advice would be to look up the government body and act relating to obtaining children's passport without consent. I needed to supply a birth certificate also but if thats something he has then you can apply for your own copy for a small cost.

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A female reader, janniepeg Canada +, writes (14 October 2015):

janniepeg agony auntI don't know about UK laws. My son's dad had no contact with him since 2008. I got divorced in 2011 and got full custody. I went to apply for his passport and was able to have it approved. The father section was totally blank. The immigration officer only said having his dad's phone number is recommended but I didn't have it. You should just try if the officer isn't nice you can give prove that you tried to contact the father but he refused to sign it.

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A female reader, Aunty BimBim Australia +, writes (14 October 2015):

Aunty BimBim agony auntSeek legal advise, you may be able to apply through a court.

A citizen's advise bureau or neighbourhood legal centre may be able to help you.

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A female reader, Tisha-1 United States +, writes (13 October 2015):

Tisha-1 agony auntI would go back to the grandparents and explain the situation again. Give them the forms that need filling in and explain the documents needed.

And I would definitely get legal help in this. Your tactic of refusing child support may have backfired, and it would be wise to get this sorted now or this child may never be able to travel until she's old enough to apply for her own passport.

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A female reader, Honeypie United States + , writes (13 October 2015):

Honeypie agony auntI think you need to talk to a lawyer/solicitor for this.

Sorry, I'm not much help here. Even as you being the custodial parent 100% he can throw a wrench in the wheel here, just out of spite.

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