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I'm having trouble dealing with my retroactive jealousy

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Question - (8 October 2011) 7 Answers - (Newest, 10 October 2011)
A male United States age 51-59, anonymous writes:

I have a question that maybe some of the women readers can answer. Why would an attractive, intelligent woman -21 years old at the time-carry on an affair with a much older married man {25 years older}with children of equal age for 7 long years? He had some money and he was her boss but he was not physically attractive at all- he was rather wimpy and 50 yo at the start of the affair. Was it for the money and the good times he showed her? Was it b/c she wanted a father figure that I know she clearly lacked as a child? Her father was a drunken womanizer that had a couple of families and didn't take care of any of his children If it is the father figure thing- I know this sounds immature but why would you want to have sex regularly with someone who you see in a fatherly way- I just don't get it from a man's view? Having sex with someone so much older is creepy in my mind let alone giving them oral sex regularly? How could a woman let a man have sex with his wife and her sometimes on the same day {I'm sure it happened} and not care for 7 long years? I really don't get it? This man acted on the surface like a good, caring man but in reality he was lying to her and to his wife and children everyday for such a long time? There is no other way to carry on an affair for such a long time without constantly lying to everyone involved- does this sound like a caring, loving man? What would his wife and kids say about it if they found out. Look, a brief affair is bad and possibly forgivable but a 7 year long affair shows how deep his selfishness runs especially with a woman in the prime years of her life.If he truelly loved her he would have ended it after a few months tellingher to find a good man to settle down with becasue I have an established life already and you deserve to have the same.How could someone do this and the other woman doesn't see it? Infact if he were to get caught, he would have denied he ever knew her even though he had sex with her literally hundreds of times-why would a young women do this for so long. It can't be just for the sex and the money - it was for 7 years-can it? Can the father figure thing last that long and if so why would a woman give a man so much control and power to be treated like the king for so long when she would never allow that to happen to anyone else who came after this old guy including her current husband? Why did this guy get to have his cake and eat it too for seven long years and she didn't mind? I know that I am acting like an immature loser because I am a grown man who had many gf's before marriage but I would like a female opinion on this especially from woman who didn't have a strong father figure as a child. Any answers would be appreciated. thank you

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A male reader, Yos Netherlands +, writes (10 October 2011):

Yos agony auntSo many questions.

You say you "don't get it from a man's view". Perhaps you just don't want to get it?

It's not hard to understand why a 50 year old man would want to have a sexual relationship with woman in her twenties. Men in their 50s often feel their youth slipping away, and with it their attractiveness. The attention of a young woman would be a huge boost to self confidence. As for being unfaithful, and for so long; who knows the state of his marriage. Clearly not good.

As for the young woman: it's so common as to be a cliche that a young woman will have an affair with her older married boss. He's available yet unavailable, an authority-figure, and has experience. Especially attractive to a woman that lacked a strong father figure.

I suspect you know the answers to your questions. You just don't want to accept that she did it, and was 'ok' with it at the time. But she was.

But people change and learn. She wouldn't do it again, as you have said. That's good: she's learned from the experience and doesn't want it repeated.

You need to accept that this happened, that it's not uncommon, and that people change and are not defined by their past actions.

Let go of the need to ask these questions. Your intuition knows the answers already, and continuing to ask them just makes you feel pain as you search for a different answer, one that will never come.

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A male reader, anonymous, writes (9 October 2011):

I agree with Janniepeg. This is not an issue of jealousy but of morality. (The same thing goes for quite a few other retroactive "jealousy" questions.) Her behavior was immoral and there is no reason to accept it just because you weren't around at the time. Learn from it and stay away from her.

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A female reader, sweetiebabes Philippines +, writes (8 October 2011):

sweetiebabes agony auntWe have our weaknesses and we sometimes want to blind ourselves of accepting the truth, of knowing what is right from wrong, an internal issue that we just do it because our emotional needs are met.

This woman most likely felt from the older man the emotional needs she needed...the feeling of being loved and cared for.

She knows this is wrong but she's very weak to stand on what is right for her and for as long as the relationship is safe, she will continue to be with him but not until time they will get caught or will realize that she needs to move on and wants to feel the sense of belonging with someone else.

I don't think this is about "father figure" feelings but this is more about emotional needs. The TLC (tender loving care) she felt from this older guy.

Yes, a selfish acts, an immoral kind of relationship but we cannot judge because whatever they did and shared...there must be reasons behind why they get along well and understood each other.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (8 October 2011):

*I moderated this question and deleted your first question and posted the second since we try not to have duplicates. The first had more detail about your situation...I'm responding to the information in that question as well as this one*

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A reader, anonymous, writes (8 October 2011):

It seems like you're having trouble wrapping your head around the "why" of her behavior and you want it to be about something concrete like money or sexual pleasure because to you it seems so creepy and disgusting. You don't seem to be buying the father figure cliche either.

I think this relationship had little to do with sex or emotions between the two of them, but had everything to do with her seeking approval. I think it's pretty common for women in their 20s to seek reassurance and confirmation through sex. Some women just date a string of losers, your wife however had a long affair with a married man who was a lot older than her.

Why didn't she find this disgusting or creepy as you do? Why wasn't she caught up on the detail that he might have had sex with his wife and her on the same day? Why wasn't she thinking about his kids and his wife? Probably because she was naive, stupid, self centered, and didn't have the sexual tastes she has now. I'm sure you can say the same things for yourself when you look back to the time you were 21.

I think the reason she stayed in this relationship so long was that it gave her confidence and reassurance at a time in her life where she wasn't getting it anywhere else.

Why would she seek out reassurance from this older guy and Can a father figure thing last 7 years?

Sure. If you take into account that her own father was a touch-and-go parent and that she knew he cheated, then this relationship with this older married man was probably very normal to her. And normalcy can be a very reassuring to people. Cheating wasn't a moral shocker like it is to you if she spent her childhood aware it was happening around her day to day.

To me it sounds like your wife didn't have a great upbringing. It sounds like was probably neglected to some degree and consequently had a really low self esteem. She wasn't thinking, "I'm treating this man like a king". She was probably thinking, I know he doesn't love me, but maybe he might change his mind next time.... It seems crazy to you, but given her upbringing, this was a relationship that felt comfortable to her.

If you grow up with a living demonstration that men cheat and aren't loyal, you become very skeptical of anyone who says to you, "I love you and want to stay with you" A relationship with a peer probably seemed a lot more emotionally risky.

You seemed to have wrapped your imagination around this guy at the time instead of your wife. And in your imagination, he was some guy who had it all. He was rich, had a family and a mistress. He was "treated like a king?" He was "having his cake and eating it too?" It sounds like you half admire this man and feel insecure next to him. And I'm thinking you want to blame your wife somewhat for that insecurity. Why not use a little imagination wondering what your wife was like at the time beyond the sexual images you've fixated on. It seems like she probably felt like she had nothing, that she couldn't be taken seriously or loved, and she just wanted to be admired anyway she could. It sounds actually quite sad to me.

Have you ever inquired about how she felt at that time? Have you ever asked her why she ended it? That's just as important as why she got into it the first place.

Good luck.

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (8 October 2011):

My father died just when I was 14. I was not close to him. However I Never once wished for a father figure in my life.

For for this woman who was with her much older married lover:

She had power over him: sexual power. She was young, younger than his wife and she used this to her advantage

Free sex and his money: was she his legitimate prostitute? Meaning she traded sex for her upkeep?

7 years: did her affair eventually end? Did she trade up? Or did he trade her in?

Don't try to overanalyse the affair. It was a simple sex and money exchange bet the two and the two knew exactly what they were getting into.

Both were devoid of morality. Both were/are users. Both are/were selfish. Its all about them. Its only about them!

Both had no concept of right or wrong. Both did as they both please and did not give a damn

As for his apparent ugliness: the woman didn't care bec she was bought.

The current questions come to mind:

Is she faithful? Can she remain faithful?

Lies and deceit: often the character doesn't change. So sneaking around, that rush for the illicit life is like an addiction.

What are her thoughts about marriage?

Does she believe in the sanctity of marriage or does she believe in "free for all"

Is She trustworthy?

Can she trust herself?

I don't know whether I've helped u with any aspect but I think u need to know that women who trade sex for their upkeep do not believe that they are doing anything wrong. They know how to play the game. They know what their role in and they agree to the terms. To them its just a means to an end and I'm sure she cannot believe that u are baffled by the past. If she cannot/do not believe she did anything wrong then there is no way in hEll u are going to convince her.

LoveGirl

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A female reader, janniepeg Canada +, writes (8 October 2011):

janniepeg agony auntRetroactive jealousy and a 21 year old woman with an old boss. So you are now dating this 20 some year old woman? As an outsider I would say they both got what they wanted even for selfish reasons. This isn't really an issue of jealousy, for me it's morality. I don't know how people can keep the lie going and not let nasty guilt feelings stop them for the whole 7 years. I know this type of "business reciprocal" relationship is becoming common but I am not going to accept this as the norm.

You didn't say you are attached to this woman but I wouldn't want anything to do with her. People would say it's the past accept it but I say you don't have to accept anything.

Your question is why don't these people mind? It is because they closed off their emotions and just put on a happy face.

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