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My lover looks after his sick twin sister, but could include me more but is not. Do I end it?

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Question - (9 November 2011) 22 Answers - (Newest, 11 November 2011)
A female United Kingdom age 51-59, anonymous writes:

Dear all, Your opinions please. I have been dating a man for around 8 months now. He is seperated has his teenage duaghter living with him and his twin sister who has Downs Syndrome for who he is her full time carer. He is 45 years old. I know he has these responsibilities, but I see him just twice a week, when he comes over and stays the night and it;s not enough, I have spoken to him many times and have stayed at his house, but not recently, and we literally watch a bit of the news and go to bed as he has to get up early to get back for his sister ( she is diabetic, needs time to get ready early to go to the daycenter etc,injections etc, so it;s a bit of a handful). I resent that I am not part of his domestic life, and that he actually could see me more if he wanted to by me going there. I do not have much more time to waste on this and have told him that, but it makes no odds, and he just asks me stupid things like' do you want me to move in then? when he knows full well he can't, and says stuff like' give me time'. I am sick of that one, I know his twin is sick, and he has talked of putting her in a care home, but would feel to guilty, and I can;t take it on, so where does it leave me? should I just cut my losses and end it? plus he is always moaning about money ,wnats to know where I am, and is a bit controlling and moody.is this because of the pressure he is under? or am I making excuses for him? I finally lost it wih him last night and told him he is moaning and stuff and we can never be together properley, and he looked really shocked and felt bad. I don;t know if I can get my feelings back to how they were and the fun has gone out of it, and we argue like never before, althogh he doesn;t even defend himself now, and seems resigned, and i know he is under alot of presure but i can only take so much and he is not giving me as much as he can eg: a friday and a sat night, or sat afternoon., or sunday when I could go to the park or whatver with him and the sister. Am i being selfish ? should I give him a chance or cut my losses and end it? I dont have all the time to waste 'waiting' for who knows what to happend. Even when i have days off , he still makes no real effort.

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A female reader, Miamine United Kingdom +, writes (11 November 2011):

Miamine agony auntThe bottom line, as you have said "The fun has gone out of it". Your in your 40's and want to settle down, this guy isn't the right one.

Your a grown woman in her 40's, your not a teenager. His emotions, his sister, his issues are not your problem.

Haven't you dumped a guy before? Phone him or ask to meet him and tell him that you aint interested no more, or need space, or you've met someone, or you don't fancy him, have AID's, are moving away, have turned lesbian.....

Blah, blah, blah.. you aint happy... dump him

Time is running out and your wasting time with this guy. Get rid of him and move on.

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A male reader, anonymous, writes (11 November 2011):

Based on all that youve written i dont think you should stay in a relationship with this man. dont just settle with a man who doesnt treat you right, stick up for yourself and tell him you deserve better and that you are no longer willing to put up with his moods and controlling nature. Close the door and dont return to him because he wont change. Goodluck x

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A female reader, So_Very_Confused United States +, writes (10 November 2011):

So_Very_Confused agony auntI had a whole answer earlier today and the network crashed... ugh.

let's see if i can do something almost as good....

you start by telling him

"it's not fun any more" (I told my last husband I was only staying as long as it was fun)

then you can tell him

"I"m not happy any more"

and he will ask why probably and you can say something along the lines of:

"I'm not asking you to change these things because I know you can't (or won't) but these are the reasons I am not happy...

a. xxxxx

b. yyyyyyy

c. zzzzzzzz

IF he says he will change (and you have discussed these things before) you can say

"you already knew these things were an issue and nothing has changed yet"

blah

blah

blah.....

back and forth with him trying to negotiate and make you feel guilty for wanting a better partner...

if you need help being strong you make a list of all the PROS things about the relationship and draw a line down the center of the page and on the other side all the CONS of the relationship...

look at it

read it

use it to make your decision.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (10 November 2011):

You are both adults, lonely, hooked up and kept hooking up and didn't expect the sex and continuous meeting to form a connection?

And if you KNOW hes not a nice guy, then what are you doing?

You need to take responsibility for your choices and never mind finger poiting in his direction.

I still say counselling is the BEST course of action because it will address your means to date and how you chose men to 'fall in love' with. I think that whole process needs to be reassessed and tweaked and a counsellor will help you with all of that.

Like I said, a healthier, wiser, adult woman who loves herself would have stayed away from such a man- way too much drama going on.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (10 November 2011):

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Ok. So how do I end it? i kind of want to and dont; want to at the same time. the fun has gone out of it..... it;snot going anywhere, but i still really fancy him, but he deons not treat me right ( well he does, but only sometimes). I am beggining to get very angry when I am with him and wnat to shake him. Thats not good is it. x

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A reader, anonymous, writes (10 November 2011):

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You are right there. He either can;t or wont;l give it to me. i can;t work out which one!! thats what is getting to me. he seems not to be abelt do do anymore because of his situation, but then again, he could . I am tryig to wean myself off him and it;s hard. I am leaving my mobile phone at work so i don;t have to think about it - calling him less, and seeing him lsee, and trying to get used to the idea it is not going to work. i dpo actully feel like he loves me yes. We are very affectionate with each other, and very close when we are togther, but he is moody as hell sometimes and his life is really hard and it comes out on me.

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A female reader, So_Very_Confused United States +, writes (10 November 2011):

So_Very_Confused agony aunthe tells you he loves you... does he SHOW YOU?

my last husband TOLD me he loved me. he never SHOWED me with actions... he always did things that hurt me but that HE needed to do.

current partner NEVER says "I love you" I have heard it maybe 3 times in a year... BUT this man loves me more than any man ever has... HE SHOWS ME....

ACTIONS speak louder than words. ARE his actions saying he loves you?

I started as FWB/NSA with my current man so I get that it can morph and change... but it seems to me that you are NOT happy and want more and he refuses or can't give it to you.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (10 November 2011):

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Dear anon, jsut because he has a sick sister and cares for her, doesn;t mean that he is a nice guy just because of that. the two don;t automatically go togther he does not treat me right - believe me.x

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A reader, anonymous, writes (10 November 2011):

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Dear sop confused., no , he actually said me that it has gone past casual a few months back . he knew it at the same time as i did., we got really attched to each other and were not expecting it.he tells me he loves me etc.x

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A female reader, So_Very_Confused United States +, writes (10 November 2011):

So_Very_Confused agony auntif it started as casual I hate to tell you it's still casual for him....

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A reader, anonymous, writes (10 November 2011):

How can you possibly say he is selfish. He is giving his time to care for his sister, and then also making time for you. His time is spent on everyone else, and caring for someone full-time is hard work. Yet he makes time for you, and you say he is messing you around and doesn't treat you right. You are demanding more from him, yet you also said in your post that you won't move in with him and take on caring for his sister. I am sorry but you are being extremely selfish, and harsh. Obviously in your mind the whole world revolves around you. Do him a favor and go find someone else, so he can find a woman who is caring and understanding. Has it occured to you that maybe due to the fact his siter has down syndrome and there is tension between you over your demands of more of his time, he doesn't get you to go to his house more, because his sister might pick up on the tension and it may upset her. What ever this man does, he can't win with you. It will never be all about you in this situation, because he is caring for someone who does not have the capability to care for themself. In future don't get involved with men who have responsibilities and can't make you the centre of their world.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (10 November 2011):

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The things is.. is startred as a casual relatsionship.. then it got serious after a few months,and neither he nor I were expecting thatx

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A reader, anonymous, writes (10 November 2011):

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Thanks So vey confused. yesm he is not going to change, I have tried everything to make and get hm to change, and the only thing that seems to work is when I back right off. i am still jealous of him meetig and going with someone else, but I guess I;ll have to get over it. I am going to fizzle it rather than end it, as i don;t have the guts to do that at the moment....!

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A female reader, So_Very_Confused United States +, writes (10 November 2011):

So_Very_Confused agony auntAh so the problem is simple... he's not a good boyfriend you want more.

so yes the answer is to end it. You are clearly not happy.

He is NOT going to change.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (10 November 2011):

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OPS- So confusing. My deadline is that I am 43 years old, wnats a fmaily, wnats to settle down and get married someday. I am seeing no signs of this happening with this man at all. I am feeling like a back up plan as he comes over - we hardly ever go out, he doens;t call as much as he should, uneless that is , I back off and 'force' him into making more effort. there is a lot of game playing and head games stuff going on from his side, and I find it wearing!! Sorry to moan guys, but it;s really helfpul for me to get some other views and write this down!! I am worn out..x

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A reader, anonymous, writes (10 November 2011):

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Hi all, Thanks for your answers. I am not being selfish, as the fact is this man is not treating me properley anyway. I could accept it more if he was being good to me, but he messes me around, doens;t call when he says he will and generally doens;t treat me good . He is the one who is selfish i could accept his situation more if he was ok to me, but he is not, and is moody and controlling. he never wnats to see me more than once twice a week and could take me to his house more oftern, i do not have a problem with his sister, I have a porblem with him treating me like crap because of his hard life and taking out his stuff on me.

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A female reader, tennisstar88 United States +, writes (10 November 2011):

tennisstar88 agony auntLike everyone else said you knew what you were getting into. The man has limited time because he is his sister's full time caretaker.

It hurts you that all his time revolves around his sister and not you. But you're forgetting that he takes what little time he has to himself and gives it to you. Instead of being grateful, you're demanding more. In this case, you're going to have to take what you can get and be happy with it.

If you're not happy with this arrangement, then end it.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (9 November 2011):

I am a full-time carer of my elderly mother, and I would say to my boyfriend that if he can't handle being with me knowing that I have taken on this responsibility and commitment, then he should go and find someone who can be with him the way he wants.

I do think you are being selfish, but your obviously not happy so you should end it. You took on a relationship with this man, knowing his situation and responsibilities, yet you obviously think he should put his sister in a home, to satisfy your wants/needs, to me yes that is selfish and cruel. You need to find a man who can make you his only priority as that is what it seems that you want. If you do break up with him, make sure the next man you become interested in doesn not have any responsibilities like this, so you can be the focus. It is an extremely hard job he is doing looking after his sister and he should be commended for being such a caring man.

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A female reader, So_Very_Confused United States +, writes (9 November 2011):

So_Very_Confused agony auntSounds to me like it's not a good fit.

it's nice that he cares for his sister but what arrangements has he made for her for when he no longer can care for her??? (i have a disabled child so we planned ahead for his care after we are gone)

can you move in with him? 8 months dating is not a lot of time to know if you want a permanent commitment for most folks (for me I'd know).... but if you think you want a permanent life with him then move in with him... or is that not an option for him?

you keep saying you dont' have time to waste... what is the deadline for?

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A reader, anonymous, writes (9 November 2011):

He has a very demanding life,I feel sorry for him. His hands are full. Yes I believe you are a bit selfish,but I do think you need to move on now to someone who can meet your demands.

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A female reader, aunt honesty Ireland +, writes (9 November 2011):

aunt honesty agony auntYou are clearly not happy with him, he has a lot of responsibility therefore he is not going to ever put you first in your life, that you can be sure about, if you cannot deal with that, well then cut your losses now before it gets any harder. Explain that things need to change dramatically in order for you to be happy and if there is no effort being put in well then it is time to call it a day I guess.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (9 November 2011):

Most healthy Adult Women would see the outcome of a relationship and would either say, I can not do this and be second to another and walk way before all of the drama even began.

Or Secondly, saw it and accept it as is.

Yet you saw it, accepted it and THEN try to enforce change by having him choose you over his twin. Especially when you know he feels guilty.

I think you are being selfish and unfair and if you REALLY wanted to end things- you would have already.

How about seeking counselling to figure out why you would chose to set yourself up for 'failure' by chosing to date an emotionally unavailable man?

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