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Is it OK to take advantage of a groomer if they know you know what is happening?

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Question - (15 November 2022) 4 Answers - (Newest, 18 November 2022)
A male United States age 16-17, anonymous writes:

This is about a dude I know at the YMCA where I go after school for 3hours every day. I am 16 and he is 31 and it is like he does not need to work and has money and like is constantly working out and chilling at the YMCA. He is like openly gay and flirts with me like crazy even though he knows I am straight and underage and laughs when I react like a red face or don’t know what to say back. He is also totally grooming me and not trying to hide it. He is always complimenting my body in very weird and specific ways even though I am not an athlete or super buff just fit because I am like an ectomorph body type if you know what that means. There are a lot of hot guys he could hit on but he seems to target me with most of his attention. Is it wrong to take gifts and favors from a dude who is openly gay and into me even though I am straight but he is like so obviously hoping something will happen? It is even more weird because like we are both open about what is happening and there are no mind games about it. He knows I am straight and a virgin and not wanting to experiment but that I like the attention he gives me because it is just me and my mom and he is like being all male role model and boosting my ego and giving me gifts of stuff that I legit need like shoes and clothes including legit workout clothes and a swimsuit and his compliments make me feel sexy and he does know a lot about fitness and he is training me now and I feel stronger like how I am getting even more defined even if I am not a lot bigger. I know some of the workout clothes were for a somewhat pervy purpose because all the shirts are tanks which show off my arms and the top of my chest and have super low arm holes so you can see a lot of skin especially from the side and he admitted it when I asked why he picked those shirts. I do appreciate the things he has done to help me and my mom including some gift cards he just gave me to buy my mom something for Christmas. I also think it is funny to tease him by acting sexy around him. He totally loves it when I take off my shirt or lift it up to wipe some sweat away from my face and flash my abs at him or we go swimming or we shower at the same time and sometimes I will go in the steam room and sit there naked with him. It is like I am messing with him sometimes because I know he is into me. I know he wants to have sex and do all kinds of pervy things with me and he has even admitted a lot fantasies to me some of which are kind of hot and some which are wacko in the extreme. He has not touched me except to rub my shoulders, or feel my bicep when he asks first, or hold my legs when I am doing crunches. He has not tried to force anything. The closest to pressure is asking me to do more calisthenics or situps even after I am tired so he can watch me. If I say I am tired he like sort of begs me a little and so I keep going cause I figure he does nice stuff for me. He likes controlling the speed on the treadmill and run me til I am dripping sweat and breathing hard but he always buys me a Gatorade. He says he does not care if nothing ever happens that he just likes fantasizing about it and being around me and watching me do sports and exercise and talking to me about his fantasies and making me talk about girls I like and my fantasies with them and asking personal questions about puberty or jacking off to make me get red in the face. He always teases me when I get a boner from him talking about my body even though I am straight. I was in a jam a few times and my mom could not pick me up and he gave me a ride home and he did not try to do anything. Other than that we are always in a public place so he has to be careful and like if he did jump my bones I could get help. In a way even though he started this we are using each other. Sometimes I feel guilty and perverted just going along some with it all and not telling him to leave me alone. I did get a little freaked when I realized he has tons of pics and vids of me working out and playing basketball with other people. I only knew of one vid of me doing pullups for him until recently. It freaked me but he let me look at his phone and they are all G rated and at worst I am not wearing a shirt in some of them. He admitted he uses them to jack off. I know this is kind of weird but he comes across all chill and respecting my boundaries and he is actually a good workout partner and I would not have some things I really needed without him and he buys me dinner and even food to take home to my mom to eat every weeknight which helps my mom and me both. So am I wrong to be taking advantage of him here? I think in a way we are taking advantage of each other but like aware of it. Is this a fair compromise where we are both getting something we want and need? Am I setting myself up for something I don’t see coming? Am I being like a prostitute to use my body to get things without the sex by letting him watch me exercise and see me naked and stuff? The only time I took actual cash was when he paid me $20 to keep doing pullups and crunches even though I was tired. As long as there is no sex will anybody get in trouble? I know this is twisted but I would like some feedback. It is okay if you tell me I am doing something wrong or something I will still read and think about what you say.

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (18 November 2022):

It isn't just a question of morality. It is also a question of safety. This man is 100% going to hurt someone, if not physically or sexually, then emotionally- if not you, then someone younger, less experienced, or less able to take care of himself. Please turn this guy in. Be the moral hero who makes yourself and other kids out there safer by getting this guy out of the Y and off of the streets. Then talk to a good lawyer. See if you can sue this a-hole (on behalf of all the rest of us too) for anxiety, loss of innocence, and bad dreams. Best of luck to you in this and in a making better life for yourself and your family as an adult.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (17 November 2022):

You are a child, and you are not responsible for what adults do. It is expected that you would like what he's doing to help you and your mom; but that is the objective of grooming and taking advantage of impressionable minors.

He will eventually be realized and reported. The YMCA is supposed to be supervising minors and monitoring all activities on their premises. It appears the organization you're going to is laxed in their responsibilities; but a concerned patron will sooner or later realize what's going-on; and will probably notify someone. If he already has pics and videos of you; he has already crossed the line. Just by reading your post, you know better; and you are playing this thing to the hilt. It isn't a good thing. You are toying with someone who could be potentially dangerous.

Your mother should also be vigilant and concerned about adult-males and their behavior around you. You shouldn't be soliciting guys for favors or money; because it could be misconstrued as prostitution, and it sounds like you'll turn that around by ratting him out for grooming you. In any case, he's the adult, and he is the one who should be most responsible for his actions.

I strongly suggest you stop taking his gifts! If you know you're being groomed, and accepting gifts from people to take advantage of an inappropriate situation; it does not reflect well on your character either. I am glad you're willing to listen, and I hope you remain safe.

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A female reader, Honeypie United States + , writes (16 November 2022):

Honeypie agony auntIs it wrong to take advantage of someone who is acting inappropriately toward you? That is your question.

And I'd say yes. Instead, FILE a complaint that this dude is being inappropriate and is making you uncomfortable.

Because they might be guys out there younger than you that could fall for his tricks.

Also, STOP getting in a car with him.

While I think HE is the one MOSTLY in the wrong, YOU are also old enough to know right from wrong here.

"I realized he has tons of pics and vids of me working out and playing basketball with other people. "

Do you know that YOU are putting yourself in danger? Maybe not from this guy but he might (I bet he is) share those images of YOU with others.

I think you are playing with fire. And you are 16, so not as smart as you think you are.

And he is a Flipping CREEP.

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