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Have I got trust issues? I don't want him back, and don't want to be friends, I just want back my money. Is it me with the problem here?

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Question - (21 July 2008) 13 Answers - (Newest, 22 July 2008)
A female United Kingdom age 36-40, anonymous writes:

How do you get someone to see that you're not trying to twist things and make it look like 'its them' with the problem? Brief history, split with someone after nearly 2 yrs who lied in the early days. We had split after a yr, i found out he lied, yet after a few months still let him manipulate his way back. Lent him a few grand, we split for good in jan. He wanted to sort it yet again, I made the choice not to for good. Me and my kids are happier on our own right now. It was a rollercoaster 'relationship'(I use that term loosly) and Ive never had such a disfunctional one in my life. Always manage to stay mates with exes, but I seriously dont like this guy, I'm clawing the money back in dribs and drabs and dont want any contact with him, apart from when he brings money. I blocked txt from his number, so he could only ring land line when he had some cash for me because we always ended up bitching in txt about the money. I thought that was sensible. And listened to my rents advising me he's using it as a control thing. Yet he always pushes it so that we are being civil and txting each other again, him asking about my day and where I'm going out weekends! And the circle continues. I hate all that, and dont consider him a friend. And admittedly I stomach it all, and keep it civil, so i get my money back! We got a bit narked again in txt saturday about the money, last night he sends txt which is obviously meant for someone else saying thanks for last night and being a tru friend and helping me see things normally will let you know about saturday. I made a joke of it and let him know he sent it to wrong person, said i was genuinely pleased he's got a good friend thats helped him see things clearer, then i get the txt saying he must of sent it to both of us, but she's a good friend, and also she's a counsellor and made him see its me twisting things and trying to make him feel he's in the wrong. It shouldn't bother me, but it does. I'm not interested in the guy, only getting whats mine, back. But I am bothered if I really am a loon. I'm now wondering if it is me. He doesn't understand that because he lied before, and we are now split, that I simply dont trust him where the monies concerned. Its him thats dragging it all out, its not like he's not earning good money. He keeps saying he has good mates that know he's trustworthy and too nice. Although all his mates are drinking buddies that binge drink every night. I call those aquaintances, not true friends.

But I dunno..Maybe it is all me, I cant see how, seeing as I dont want anything from him but my money back. But he's great at making people feel like they are being mean to him.

Help me out here, I'm not young, but maybe I'm still not getting the hang of this thing called life?! Should I be able to trust someone sfter they lied? Have I got trust issues going on possibly?

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A male reader, q1605 United States +, writes (22 July 2008):

q1605 agony auntwell its a good thing I divested myself of all my dollar denominated investment vehicles. for the first time in my life I am being somewhat successful in the commodities exchange. I trade metals but ones not so associated with some store of wealth as opposed to their utility. Aluminum my friend...... not so volatile. Just from the cans we drank this week end alone I could afford another 12 pack. In this economy you always need to be forward thinking

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A reader, anonymous, writes (22 July 2008):

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Thats a very good point actually. Its definately not the principle though. I lent it to him for what was suppose to be 2 weeks when we were an item, that was in december. Times up. I want it back. Ive currently got another plan up my sleeve to retreive it anyway.

3998.20 dollars to 2000 GBP to be precise. So Mr Google says anyways xxxxxxxx

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A male reader, q1605 United States +, writes (22 July 2008):

q1605 agony auntthere is nothing unhealthy about being motivated by cash. I can't think of a better reason. Love? look how that turned out. I just like that you are willing to put it out there without qualifying it the way people will. How many times have you heard: it's not the money its the principle. Whats wrong with it being about the money. Is the dollar getting two pounds now? holy shit. Good thing I am broke. If I had any cash I would be all in a cold sweat.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (22 July 2008):

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Uh huh, yes thats true. Its exciting, the looking forward to getting shot of him completely, almost like looking forward to getting shot of a hunk of junk of a car lol

Cheers ears xxx

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A male reader, q1605 United States +, writes (22 July 2008):

q1605 agony auntand trying to decide where you stand on trust issues in general. You wont be be able to approach that and take inventory till that other guy is gone. You can't decide how you feel about externals accurately while he is yanking your chain so hard..

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A reader, anonymous, writes (21 July 2008):

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Yes ive had a good think and you all made very good points. Anon was spot on about giving it too much of my time. That needs to stop today. q1605 is right about keeping it civil, then pushing him under a bus. Haha nah i am kidding! And Shandygirl yes, i will definately be cutting off all contact. I guess at the end of the day whoever is moaning at who out of the 2 of us, its just even more of an indication that we wouldn't even get on as friends, let alone lovers. We tried the friends thing last yr after splitting the first time, and he wormed his way back. I need to stop being soft and letting people manipulate me. My mum taught me a valuable lesson after we split the begining of the year, she said what annoyed her was seeing me end it, be certain it was what i wanted, but let him talk me round, more times than once. This time ive remembered what she said, and kept him away, emotionally. Its just the money left now, its a bit much to write off for bills, it 2 thousand. I think thats about 4 thousand in dollars? But I have mentioned my car mot is running out next month and he said he will let me know. Shall stop letting it wind me up and wait n see now.

You're all great, I was lucky, i got all the good quality aunts it seems!

Thanks again. xxxx

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A male reader, q1605 United States +, writes (21 July 2008):

q1605 agony auntI guess I need to reread my post but if thats not what i said its what I meant. Tell him no communication till he is settled up but who knows with out the burden if the money issues pressing down on you it may free you to I think shove him into traffic were close to my words. But don't let him know that. owing you money is all he's got. I don't want to encourage underhandedness ....Yeah ....I think I do. He will portray you as a money grubbing bitch whatever you do. You might as well hang one in his arse. And it's YOUR money. He should be looking you up

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A female reader, shandygirl United States + , writes (21 July 2008):

shandygirl agony auntMake up a story to get your money back. Tell him you need to pay overdue bills or your electricity, phone, gas, and what ever else will get shut off. It is an emergency, and you need your money back! Make it sound as horrible as possible.

Then after you get your money... shut off ALL communication with him, and don't ever let him manipulate you again. I don't think you have trust issues, I think your instincts are screaming in your ear to get away from this guy!

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A reader, anonymous, writes (21 July 2008):

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Trusting him isn't important anon. I'm questioning if i have trust issues with 'anyone'. In general. Because apparently i am suppose to of trusted this guy and trust he will pay money back when he did a fair bit of lying in the past. About various things. Too much to put in here. Guess i wondered if I have been a bit hard on the him, simply because of the past. The bit about his mates not being mates, more aquaintences, was a thinking out loud about their supposed loyalty to him and saying what a nice guy he is. I always think if you only see people when you're out on the raz, they aren't real mates? Believe me, if i could go back a yr and only of had him lie, i would be a happy bunny! lol xxx

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A reader, anonymous, writes (21 July 2008):

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Haha G1605, that made me chuckle. But also made sense, in places! ha! I dont for a minute think he is dangerous, otherwise yes, i would quit the money and run. But its a fair bit of cash. There is no question of a reconsiliation once the money is sorted. This will sound nasty, but every possibility of him being able to contact me at all will be blocked. It makes me feel pukey even feeling i have to be civil, just in the hope of getting back as much of the money as i can so i couln't even slightly pretend to give it another go at anytime. Once its over, i will run as fast as my very short legs will carry me. I dont hate him, i just dont like him, and he wouldn't be someone i would chose as a friend, if that makes sense. And all this has been such a nightmare, i just want to put it all behind me and be free of it all.

I dont know what its all about from him even, ive always been honest and made it clear i wont ever go back, he said he was happy with that but just wanted to stay friends. Yet even when we have had disagreements recently about the money, ive been silly enough to say i just want this sorted and to be rid of him, he still snakes his way back to pally chit chat? Ive done the 'not getting into conversation, about anything only contact when you have some money' thing, and blocked him more than once, he tells my 13 yr old son he wont cause trouble, and i end up unblocking him, maybe thinking it will speed up the cash return! Its going round ad round and round. Thats a big chunk of the bit that makes me think he doesn't listen to anyone but himself if someone says they dont particularly like you, why keep trying to be chummy? The brief times we havent been in contact, have been bliss!

I guess Im just concerned that if i ignore him now, i wont see another penny. Money isn't everything no, but iv got 2 children that i would quite like to save that money for their futures. It was the last of some inheritance i received from my gran.

You were saying i'm a loon in her eyes because of what he says about me, maybe the same could be said in here with what i'm saying about him! Oh i dont know! Arggggggggggg sorry, just went a bit loony then lol Paranoia!

Thanks for your opinion. x

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A male reader, q1605 United States +, writes (21 July 2008):

q1605 agony aunt oh, the therapist that has you wondering if you are a loon. She's right you are a loon. Based on the way he misrepresents you to her. I am doing post graduate work in womens loonplicity. My ability to spot latent looniferism in women is honed to a razors edge. I have assisted in many loonectomys around the world. Writing from a garden variety loon doesn't need to be extracted from between the lines of what passes as normal text. Does your question strike you as coming from a loon. Its because it didn't. See a soliciter for a writ of habeas loonus. Can someone call me a cab.

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A male reader, q1605 United States +, writes (21 July 2008):

q1605 agony auntThe only problem I see is you've got all the power in this and you don't realize it. Probably because power is the last thing you want to wield. You want your cash and you want him gone. You have told him this, so his fits and starts with money are the only way he can exert even the smallest sway over you. Manipulate his ass back. Tell him you will not text, talk, send smoke signals to, or do just about any thing but keep a wide berth around his part of town, unless he has cash for you. You might keep an under current in the conversation of implying that when he settles up you might entertain a conversation of reconciliation but only after he settles his debt. Just to keep him motivated to maintain a healthy cash flow. I don't know this guy but if insanity runs in his family or his sanity was ever in question this would not be the way to play this. I would write the cash off all together if it might lead to his coming unglued and it all be focused on you. But to imply potential that you have no intention of delivering. Solely to get this guy off his wallet long enough for the contents to be transfered to you. I call that sales and marketing.

After you've been paid back, all those issues of trust won't mean jack. You can listen to his case about any thing relating to you and him. Just tell him he needs to edit for time content and that time needs to coincide with the time it takes to arrive at the door and shove him into traffic.

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (21 July 2008):

You are saying that you only want your money back but why then is getting to trust him so important? You are very much too involved in this man's life to be someone that is trying to get out of it. Why are you concerned about his mates NOT being mates but acquantainces? Ask for your money back and let it be. In my experience, people don't just pay out large sums of money if they don't have to. I think that as a mom you should concentrate your energy on yourself and your kids and stop paying so much attention to someone you don't want to be with. Good luck xx

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