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Difficult to meet someone in the land of the frigid (aka Canada), why?

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Question - (11 December 2010) 8 Answers - (Newest, 11 December 2010)
A male Canada age 36-40, anonymous writes:

I know a lot of people are going to go off on me for generalizing here, but it's based on what I've seen through my own experiences, as well as friends...

Anyways, recently a bunch of my buddies and I were discussing the difference between women in the U.S. and women here in Canada. All of us have been 'down south' to various regions (i.e. North East, Mid-West, West Coast, Deep South) on several occasions and have come to the conclusion that the biggest difference is that women here in Canada are just plain FRIGID! Now we're not saying American women go around sleeping with people left, right, and center, but they're 10x more easily approachable and friendly - a characteristic we've all seen across the U.S. (although none of us have been to the pacific north west...just pointing that out). Even if there is no intention of a formal relationship being built, they're still open to conversations with a stranger, something that seems so far off in Canada.

To us, it seems like most women here in Canada (specifically between the ages of 18-29) are stuck up, closed, arrogant, and, in essence, 'bitchy' - especially here in our glorious city of Toronto (recently voted the most miserable city in Canada). I know other Canadians will likely say "well that's just Toronto," but the situation is similar from NFLD to BC (although we all voted the Atlantic Provinces were the least 'bitchy'...again, based on our experiences).

As a result, it's difficult to meet women who won't cut your head off for saying "Hi"...or completely ignore you.

The thing we've been trying to figure out is...why?

We came up with some good answers (i.e. could just be a cultural difference) - and some stupid ones (i.e. cold weather makes everyone cranky) - but we are hoping to get some input from other people, both Canadians and Americans.

Your thoughts?

P.S. Before anyone says "maybe it's because you guys are losers," bear in mind we're all university educated, have professional careers, and, not to sound homo, look handsome.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (11 December 2010):

Grabbing = dating, asking out etc, not groping.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (11 December 2010):

"50% of the population of Toronto"

Most are naturalized and I wasn't talking about foreign girls that go to your country, there are millions of far more exciting Canadian men than you to find there. (no offence)

OP asked why does it seem like American women are easier and I told him why. If he goes to Germany they'll be easier too, Holland will be the same even Ireland will be.

Doesn't mean a German or Dutch girl will be easier than a Canadian girl in Canada. They have the same choices as Canadian girls then and the same as Canadian girls they're not gonna choose you, I mean they are women, they can be selective when in Canada and choose the cream of the crop because Canadian guys too will go for them (no offence)

Again I don't mean to offend but if you think the girls in your country are frigid then you're just not doing the right things to get them.

As I said earlier I thought the same about Irish girls, but I came back from my travels and went ape grabbing them left right and centre.

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A female reader, QuirkLady United States +, writes (11 December 2010):

QuirkLady agony auntI don't doubt your handsomeness...man, Canada seems to have a hot guy factory running three shifts...but I have my theories.

1) You take Tucker Max seriously.

2) You have horrible reputations and all women know to avoid you.

3) You're dating women who are out of your league and who already have multiple men after them.

4) You're Blue Jays fans.

Take your pick.

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (11 December 2010):

OK, I'm an American (from the Pacific Northwest, which you have admittedly not been to), but my best friend is engaged to a Canadian from Calgary, and we have lots of Canadian friends (seeing as we live an hour from the Canadian border)-- and I haven't seen a huge difference in the women! So I will say A) you haven't met the right women or B) you guys are putting off a bromolicious vibe. Where are you trying to meet women?

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A male reader, anonymous, writes (11 December 2010):

Good points by the previous poster, but the original poster said they're from Toronto. If I'm not mistaken, something like over 50% of the population of Toronto comes from another country, meaning the 'foreign girls are easy argument' doesn't really ring true in this case.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (11 December 2010):

Foreign girls are a hell of a lot easier when you're in their country. Trust me a HELL of a lot easier. Because any faux pas you make can be always be put down to cultural differences, things girls in your own country expect you to know and not do you can get away with. They don't expect you to know nor follow the rules and in fact lots think it's exciting to be shown a new way of doing things.

Like in Ireland you can get a female acquaintance a drink without any implied motive, nothing is assumed. But if you go to Germany and you buy a girl a drink, that means you want to have sex with her because that's the initial ritual there. If she accepts that drink then she's basically saying yes, keep playing your cards right and it's on.

There's also the fact we act differently because of this, we're not restricted by cultural restraints, plus we're in a place where we will never meet any of those people ever again if we don't want, so we can do what we want. That freedom is infectious, it allows us to take any risk we want and it also allows girls to a risk with us because they can without fear of ever seeing us again.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (11 December 2010):

Actually Canadian women are very easy going. I had 4 friends live there and Canadian people in general are very nice very talkative people. They said you can't get on a bus without making a new friend that includes women. Now they lived there for years.

So they got to know the culture, some even lived in America too. The women there were just as friendly.

You say you're educated but you don't sound well traveled, because if you were you'd know that's just a foreign holiday thing.

I've lived in England, Holland, germany, america and of course Ireland, for years I've lived in these places and traveled a lot. You see when you're from a different country you have this huge exciting mysterious aura about you from the beginning, you have this thing that you just don't get with girls from your own country because you grew up with them.

Foreign girls immediately have a fascination with you, you have lots of things you can talk about straight away, they're curious, they think your accent is cute, you have an edge from the start, in essence just being from a different country you are exciting. Women (and men) love excitement and mystery. We love discovering new things.

When you approach another Canadian you just don't have that but if I go to Canada I do, just because I'm Irish I could have girls that you might not get a chance with talk to me to discover who I am, when they find out you're Canadian from the same city as them then you have to have something else to create that edge or excitement. To Canadian girls you're nothing new. Trust me, you might think because you're Canadian they're frigid, well I used to think the same about Irish girls but they're not. Trust me, go live in another country for a while travel a bit and you'll see what I'm saying. As long as the country is a liberal one then you will get lots of girls eager to talk to you to discover the mystery or show off their knowledge of you r country, ask you questions about pop culture in your country.

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A male reader, anonymous, writes (11 December 2010):

You guys were spot on in your analysis! I've been to the U.S....may lack the health care system Canada has, but people sure are a hell of a lot more friendly, including the women!

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