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My Algerian fiance wants $5000 for a student visa?

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Question - (17 April 2019) 10 Answers - (Newest, 19 April 2019)
A female Canada age 30-35, anonymous writes:

Hello

Thanks in advance for your help.

My fiancée and myself live in different countries. I’m Canadian , he is from Algeria. We have been together over 2 years. I have went to see him 6 times in the two years. He has applied for his visiting visa twice and both times he was denied. The reason was they feel he ha a change of not returning back to his country.

He now said he will try a student visa and get he told me the fee for this is 5,000! That sounded absurd. What bothers me more is he asked when I could send the money for it so he can get the process going.

Does this sound right ? 5000.00 for a student visa ?

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (19 April 2019):

If he really wants to get a visa and come to Canada, he will find a way to find the money himself. In all likelihood he is trying to scam you. Don’t send the money.

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A male reader, WiseOwlE United States + , writes (19 April 2019):

Please don't send the money. He knows he isn't going to get the visa; but he can still use the money. Your gut tells you it doesn't smell right. You asked for advice, but you already know the answer, my dear.

You won't be on the receiving-end when he gets the money. So, how will you know how he uses it? I speculate you've already sent him cash transactions; but you didn't mention it. I know in two long years, the topic of money has come-up quite a few times. Legal fees, this and that. Emergencies, and what-not?

Nine times out of ten, when foreigners claiming to be having immigration and visa problems are asking for money, it's not on the up and up. They claim they need medicine for sick mothers, dying siblings, etc.

You live in Canada? He could have several different fiances all over the world!

Just because you've visited him six times doesn't mean anything. You don't know what he's doing when you're apart. You can afford to travel internationally; which means you have money, or a good income. He doesn't have a pot to piss in, or a window to throw it out of. Yet he has asked you to marry him? Why don't you pull-up stakes and move to Algeria! Make it easier. Test him, tell him you've decided it may be easier if you moved there; so he can get a job and take care of you. See what happens! He can milk this visa scam for years!

There are just too many scams going on in various parts of Africa. Lonely or desperate European, Canadian, and American women hunting for husbands on the internet are prime targets.

Go online and look-up videos on YouTube of guys in Nigeria, Ghana, North and South Africa. Pulling very lucrative scams. Playing women and gay-men for money. They're buying cars, bikes, jewelry, drugs, and partying on the cash. It's how they make a living. They're poor, and if people are foolish enough to exploit or seek them; they can't cry foul when they get robbed!

I watched a YouTube video about a popular cafe in Ghana. It was an interview with young men, by a journalist and his film crew. The guys were laughing it up! Calling westerners perverts and pathetic. They were high-fiving each other; and sending requests for money, while they were at computers at the cafe. Video-chatting online with men and women all over the world. One was wearing an expensive watch some man sent him, and he used all sorts of expletives describing the man he was taking money from. They were showing-off their motorcycles and rolls of cash. The younger, fit, and more attractive men are making a killing.

You're not his fiance. You're his benefactor and sugar-mama. Two years and you're still engaged?

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (18 April 2019):

Hello I’m the OP.

Thanks for your replies. I appreciate it. To the lady who feels he is a Nigerian scammer and I’m clueless and saying I written here before , your wrong. Nonetheless, thanks for your opinions

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A female reader, Andie's Thoughts United Kingdom + , writes (18 April 2019):

Andie's Thoughts agony auntThis is a scam. Don’t do it. Seriously; we have plenty of posts you can look through of people who did what you’re thinking of doing and realised afterwards that they were scammed. Please don’t be naive.

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A male reader, anonymous, writes (17 April 2019):

Actually there are immigration lawyers in most of the Middle East and North African countries who expedite visa works for applicants and they charge thousands of dollars as fees for their service, I guess he needs the money to pay them. However this process takes ages for the visa to come through, more than a year or more. What you can do though in my opinion, you can go and get married in Algeria then register your marriage in the Canadian Embassy there then he can apply for visa to join you in Canada. This also will take ages to come through.

Warning: I hope you are not being cheated. Do be careful.

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A female reader, CindyCares Italy + , writes (17 April 2019):

CindyCares agony aunt He is bullshitting you . 5000 is a number that he just pulled out of his… hat , because he would need either much less or much more.

A) The cost of a study permit fee is 150 CAD, and 85 for the biometrics. Add a few extra bucks for pics, stamps and assorted paperwork- we are still way under 10% of what he asked you.

B) OTH, his application needs to contain also PROOF that he can support himself and his studies while in Canada, so he needs to prove that he has got tuition cost plus at least 800 and something CAD monthly for all the school year ( 900 and something monthly if in Québec ). So that would make quite MORE than 5000 , obviously.

Btw : they won't even process his application if he can't show them a letter of acceptance from the University or other Institute of education that he wants to attend. Does he know that ?

It sounds very much like he is trying to scam you, and once he has gotten the money he would come up with some tale of woe about why eventually he could not get a visa and you'd never see your money back, of course. Either that, or , best case scenario !, he is a naive, ignorant young person who comes up with pie-in-the - sky schemes which do not take into account the real difficulties, demands and obligations pertaining to gaining legal entrance in your country.

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (17 April 2019):

Never ever send money.You deserve a man not a boy. It shows bad charater that he would even expect that of you.Red flag

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (17 April 2019):

Oh my! Yet another African scammer looking to run his game on yet another vulnerable and clueless Canadian female who is hopelessly "in love" with him. Hope he isn't really from Nigeria and hope it wasn't you who has written here numerous times already. It's clear what you need to do. Screw your heart. It's wrong in this case. Listen to the warning bells ringing in your head. This guy is bad news. Walk away now before it gets worse.

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A female reader, Honeypie United States + , writes (17 April 2019):

Honeypie agony auntActually, $5,000 seems low. Let me explain.

Canadian student visa requirements also include proof of funds to support yourself. At present this is deemed to be CA$10,000 (~US$7,650) for every year of your stay (CA$11,000/~US$8,400 if you're applying to study in Quebec) on top of your tuition fees.

So as you can see he NEEDS proof that he can AFFORD to study in Canada as well as pay the fee. HOWEVER, YOU are not RESPONSIBLE for giving him proof. THAT is HIS sole responsibility.

The fees themselves are in the $100's not $1,000 - but he has no saving to prove that HE can provide for himself when getting there, and that he can pay the tuition fees either.

And my guess why he has been denied two times already is 1. Algeria ( which is a non-Visa exempt country and a VERY small number each year can gain a Visa)

2. He isn't financial stable enough.

And... even if you DO send him $5,000 he might still be denied. And then do you really think... he will give you that money back?

"Algerian authorities like to keep a close eye on the money coming in and out of the country, and you will have to abide by the rules.

All foreign currency being brought into Algeria should be disclosed when entering the country by filling in an official form."

https://www.worldnomads.com/travel-safety/north-africa/algeria/algeria-and-its-laws

Which means HE has to fill out a form of where he got the $5,000. And you... well, if sending money orders from the US can land people in legal trouble... don't you think that could happen to you as well? I would DEFINITELY not send any money. Because, like I pointed out up top it IS his responsibility to SHOW proof that HE (not you) can support himself while studying in Canada.

TALK to a lawyer/immigration lawyer. See if you can help from your end with a FIANCE VISA.

https://www.visaplace.com/lp/fiance-to-canada?utm_source=Google&utm_campaign=Visa&utm_medium=ppc&utm_term=Fiance_Visa_Canada&landingPage=true&mkwid=_dc&pkw=%2Bfiance%20%2Bvisa%20%2Bcanada&pcrid=238847887916&pmt=b&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=%2Bfiance%20%2Bvisa%20%2Bcanada&utm_content=238847887916&s=google&keyword=%2Bfiance%20%2Bvisa%20%2Bcanada&campaign_id=722101854&adgroup_id=58424878068&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0d2P0b7X4QIVGv_jBx3h7QITEAAYASAAEgI7EPD_BwE

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A male reader, N91 United Kingdom + , writes (17 April 2019):

N91 agony auntPlease tell me you’re not seriously considering sending the money. If HE wants the visa then HE can pay for it. Why would you pay out of your pocket? Would you buy him a car if he asked for it?

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